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The title: call me Mr Awkward, but an arrow necessarily leaves at least two marks - on the archer and on the target. On your questions: we cannot not leave a mark. The act of observing - or even noting that observing is possible - changes what we observe. But achieving is not the same as living. The primary "aim" (if such there is - and no pun intended) of most people is not to make a mark, but to remain alive. Isn't that a worthwhile goal? Proof is a logical construct based on observation. Our anthropic principles ensure that we affect what we see. There is no lie, only misapprehended truth. Presence-absence is a very simple and reductionary dialectic. We are not binary. Our understanding is definitely not binary. We only delude ourselves by thinking it is. "Better/worse" merely compounds the Manichaean mistake. We communicate by breathing. I really hope you come back with no answers. Any answer you can find to these closed-in questions will be more harmful than the questions themselves. Come back with questions. Come back with awe, with curiosity, with wonder, with laughter. And, at last... I fully agree with your last sentence.
revenant · 2009-11-02: 14:45
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...this post is so sensitive....thank you.
curlyq60 · 2009-11-02: 16:17
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Hmmm, maybe Mr Awkward prefered the post WITH text. Stefan makes some good points...observing the post in question, did in fact change it, by the interpretation and communication of that interpretation...I'm sure this was done by more than breathing?!! My interpretation of your post was, that it raised questions about 'passing through'...nothing to do with 'primary aims' or the allusion that we can 'remain alive'. Every parent understands that. I have met some that don't / can't / wont have children and who tread so lightly on this earth that they believe they can leave without a trace...I'm still not sure this is possible but understand and commend their enduring work to this end. Most though, DO strive to establish a bloodline and continuation of their genes...the aiming to make their mark is nothing to do with striving to remain alive which is futile, but to create the best conditions possible for the continuation of the bloodline. This is why I question the possible erasure of trace line. Maybe if Mr Awkward viewed the post WITHOUT text, then he might have an interesting and original interpretation of his own. So far this is the only evidence that is lacking. I hope your journey is rewarding and enlightening, come back safely and speak soon :-)
tedbarlow · 2009-11-02: 19:00
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Safe and fulfilling journey my friend. Touching, thought provoking post. :)
livelovelaugh · 2009-11-02: 20:24
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if you are part of something you have no option but leave a footprint. the choice is what kind of footprint you are going to leave .. not if you are going to leave one
slowpete · 2009-11-02: 23:20
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In 2001, the artist Michael Landy systematically recorded. catergorised, incinerated and destroyed EVERYTHING that he owned (with exception to his cat) This was done publically over two weeks in warehouses in London. The last things to be destroyed were his flat keys and the clothes he stood in. He was later lent clothes to travel back to his girlfriends flat. His parents and particularly his mother were very distressed because he owned family items or things they had given him as a child. The event was very controversial and hugely condemned because he destroyed artworks by other artists, that were in his collection. He literally wiped out everything physical from his life including his bank cards and account and walked away with nothing that he could call his own. Of course the event was filmed and created a new trace...the event as artwork. He suffered greatly after this event but although failing to erase the trace line he considerably lightened the load. Of course we will leave a footprint but maybe those footprints can be altered or lessened somehow. That is why I ask if these attemps are merely a lie. My questions attempt to raise further question and debate and are not simply 'closed in' or 'harmful' as though I expect answers...of course not!
tedbarlow · 2009-11-03: 02:48
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Fantastic pictures looking up from the depth! Is it so important to leave a trace?
Unchained · 2009-11-03: 09:25
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and why? so many questions my friend. no answers. keep up framing the beauty which surrounds us.
storytaylor · 2009-11-04: 02:01
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what wonderful questions... they speak so much of a mind that cares about the environment. my father would have said: it's not an "either... or" thing. it's somewhat in between, sometimes both at the same time. you will mark your presence, without even wanting, anytime where you go. and yet, you are never more than a small vanishing point in the overall vastness of the universe, both in time and space. so, what does it matter if we destroy the planet? nothing to the universe. one world more or less with life on it... who cares? what does it mean to us, who need THIS planet to survive? everything. so, what shall we do? the necessary, not the excessive. i'm lost with the last question, though - it is something i am thinking about a lot lately. how do we "communicate silently"... wonderful expression. i hope that you have a nice time off and will bring something back that communicates, silently, with us here. :-)
stormfish · 2009-11-04: 15:17
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cool shots! "how do we communicate silently?" well, if you find an answer, please do communicate it to us.
Rogermay · 2009-11-05: 16:47
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Monika, you always make me dream with your beautiful photos and inspired words. I wish you a lovely journey. I can't wait to see your photos. ♥♥♥
nunuinpictures · 2009-11-06: 12:08
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...simply a very intriguing post..... will have me pondering all day..
Julias365 · 2009-11-10: 07:37
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very beautiful!
soubhagya · 2009-11-17: 14:33
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you are missed here... hope you haven't been drowned diving? ;-)
stormfish · 2009-11-19: 10:26
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Hmmmmm.... I will focus on your fascinating photos! These fans look wonderfully delicate and the inclusion of the divers and light from the surface are magical. I hope you have a safe trip and find what you're looking for.
DancingDolphin · 2009-11-21: 13:26
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Beautiful photos, it's really another word you show us!
hannamagnusson · 2009-11-27: 10:20
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